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we are back with a breaking news. i'm brooke baldwin. so here you go for the second time in two days now, you have republicans rebuking this president, at least a dozen republican senators joining their democratic colleagues to vote to block the emergency declaration that the president issued to build a wall on the southern border. on the defections based on the belief trump's emergency oversteps a president's authority. >> i've got concerns about this legal framework. this is not about the president. this is not about my disagreement with or disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his desire to build a barrier along our southern border. i think all those things need to happen, but this law, mr. president, is wrong. it's not president trump's fault. it's congress's. we need to change it. >> so let's go back to our senior congressional correspondent, manu raju.
we thought it would be 14, it landed with 12. >> 59-41 was the final vote tally short of the 67 needed to override veto. so that veto will be sustained and just moments ago lindsey graham talked to reporters and said he spoke to the president and the president, according to lindsey graham, said that the veto will be sustained. he said that graham said to trump that they want to find a way forward in october when they'll have to deal with this fiscal fight to look at ways to change the national emergency laws which is what a number of republicans were urging him to get behind, a possible change to future use of the national emergency. they were urging him to do that to avoid significant defections. the president refused initially to get behind that. one reason you saw a sizeable number of republicans, 12, who announced they voted against the president. those 12 include people like marco rubio and rob portman, people who are up for
re-election like susan collins, lisa murkowski. mitt romney, lamar alexander, roy blunt who's a member of the republican leadership and rand paul the conservative, mike lee and other conservatives and a kansas republican jerry moran. these republicans not comfortable with the pitch that the white house was making behind the scenes, the president was making publicly urging them to stick with him, worried about the precedent this will set. the president is faced with the first veto of his presidency. that will lead the house vote in the coming days to override his veto. they are short of a veto override in the house as well. that ultimately means it will be up to the courts to decide whether or not the president has the legal authority to move forward with this emergency declaration, to move money around to fund his border wall, but brooke, significant bipartisan majorities in both chambers rebuking the president on this key issue that he's campaigned on so hard, brooke.
>> manu, thank you. that's the latest on the hill. let's go down the road to the white house and get reaction there from our correspondent kaitlan collins and you've been reporting that this administration was preparing for this, they saw this -- the president saw this as a loyalty test. what do you think they're thinking? >> reporter: president trump was paying very close attention to who was voting with him on this vote and who was voting against him and that's why the white house had been engaged in this pressure campaign over the last week to try to limit the number of defections here. now, the white house officials are pretty realistic about this. they felt there could be ten people, that's what they were hoping, fewer than ten were going to vote against the president. they did think maybe it could go up to 14, but they were right there in the middle with these 12 republicans voting against the president. now you saw some people change their votes here. tom tillis is someone who implied heavily last week when he wrote that op ed decrying the president's use of his power here saying that he was going to vote against the president and vote yes to overturn this
national emergency declaration and then shortly before the vote, he announced he was going to be voting no and siding with president trump. now if you read this op ed, he's arguing that when conservatives complain about president obama overstepping his authority, you couldn't just turn the tables just because a republican is in the white house but he did turn the tables because he did side with president trump on this. now, what's worth noting here is that tom tillis is up for re-election as his cory gardner, two people who the white house has been pressuring in recent days to side with the president on this and brooke, we reported that the white house was telling them not only is this not a throwaway vote where you can just vote how you feel, the president is going to be paying very close attention. this is going to effect your standing with the white house and if you're up for re-election you could be primary, we may play a role in that. they were sending pretty thinly veiled threats to the senators warning not to buck the president. these 12 republicans did vote against trump. that's not a. >> look for the white house.
that's what the narrative is going to be here on out. >> that list of 12 republicans is exactly that. katelyn, thank you at the white house. let's chat with some of my favorite ladies here. republican strategy dana navarro and dana bash. and so, anna, to you first. you have seen the list of the 12 who have rebuked this president. your biggest surprise? >> i just say bravo, bravo, bravo. i think, you know -- look, congress, needs to remember it is a coequal branch of government. it is an independent branch of government. it is not subservant to the executive whether it's a republican or democrat. whether it's your team or the opposite team, you should still have the same principles and the same convictions about the role that the legislative should play. and, yes, if you were against the obama executive actions and practically every republican was, then have consistency.
if you don't want to be called a hypocrite, if you don't want to be called a coward. i will tell you it does take a great deal of courage to go against donald trump. we saw what he did in 2018 with republicans that were not loyal to him, whether it was mia love or carlos curbelo. not only did he participate in beating them, he then danced on their political grave. hell, he was still dancing on john mccain's literal grave after he died because john mccain was not loyal to him. this guy's loyalty test is italian mafia style, so going against him has consequences. >> dana, what do you think? >> i totally agree. this is -- this is going to be a moment in -- a pivotal moment in the trump presidency, unclear if this is the first of many or if this is unique for all the reasons that anna just laid out because this is a real test of principle versus party, of constitution and consistency
versus party and loyalty to the president. but, look, we've seen some big issues like sanctions against russia where the president was overwhelmingly pushed to one side by republicans against his will, but this is about asclose to his political heart as it gets, his border wall and for a dozen republicans to say, oh, no, no, no, mr. president, this is not the way the constitution is supposed to work, you're not supposed to say, okay, i'm going to sign this legislation that congress agreed to in a bipartisan way and never mind i'm going to do this on an emergency basis. the one thing that will be interesting to see is whether the courts -- this is going to be all about the courts now, will use the president's words against him, his words from the rose garden last month when he said, i could have taken my time and done this, which is could and would be and will be used by
his opponents to prove that this is not the emergency that he says it is at the southern border. >> playing it forward, it lands on the president's desk, presumably this is his first veto ever. you would need the -- correct my math, two-thirds majority so 67, is that right, 67 votes which they just wouldn't have. >> no, they wouldn't have based on what we just saw. they don't come close. so it is a symbolic rebuke. it will force him to use his veto pen for the very first time, but ultimately it's not going to change in congress. it is going to have to be the courts that will decide whether or not this really is constitutional. >> for me the fact that it is symbolic, you know, i'm proud of these 12 even more because for symbolism they are willing to suffer the consequences of going against donald trump. when we say going against donald trump has consequences, let's remember, mark sanford, jeff
flake, carlos curbelo, mia love. donald trump prefers to have a democrat hold a seat whether in congress or the senate than have a republican who dares ever act or speak against him as mildly as it might be and symbolically as it might be. he's pretty manic when it comes to loyalty tests and the guy can hold a grudge. he might not remember facts but he remembers who crossed him, who was with him and who wasn't with him. the fact that they did this knowing that they were probably going to -- >> they were going to join the list in the little black book -- >> for me, this is a glimmer of hope with the republican party. >> go ahead, dana. >> you need not look any further than tom tillis, anna. he was -- he was so worked up about this that he actually penned an op ed for "the washington post" about it and -- >> what changed? >> exactly what anna said.
he's going to be up for re-election and the threat of a primary was dangled in front of him, was, you know -- >> that was dangling over him when he wrote that op ed in the post a week ago? >> the difference was that mike lee was trying to work out a compromise. remember, they offered donald trump a life raft. they offered him a way out -- >> don't do this again. >> they were offering themselves a way out. let's come up with a fig leaf where we say, okay, we'll let this one slide but none from now on to any precedent and donald trump is so arrogant and so focused on the loyalty test, that he said no and prefers this rebuke by 12 republicans so that then he can have the chips against him. >> what does senator graham in listening to manu's reporting saying he said to trump, we'll find a way forward in october when we come up against this again. what does that look like? >> if i could answer that
question, i would be -- i don't know what. i would -- i would have a crystal ball and the lottery number and all things in between. >> yeah. >> the fact is, this isn't going away. this is a -- a -- an issue that comes up every year. it is congress that does have the power of the purse. they're going to have to appropriate money once again for homeland security and the wall money will be -- will be controversial. we saw the president's budget just this week asking for over $8 billion. it is going to be a point of contention. so how you get through that controversy and the very deep divide over that money which, of course, is a symptom of the divide over the philosophy and ideology, good luck with that. >> it also depends on the timing of how long it takes this process to wind through the courts. there's now something like 20
different states, a coalition of 20 states led by the ag of california confronting this and challenging the constitutionality of this. the best thing that could happen for republicans is for them to win in court and not have to face this and the wrath of santa claus trump of keeps a list of who's been nice and naughty. >> naughty 12 republicans it sounds like. ladies, you're the best. thank you. coming up next, beto o'rourke launches his 2020 bid with a spread in "vanity fair" claiming he is the candidate who can unite the country. >> running a campaign in the most democratic small way possible where he show up, everywhere and no one is taken for granted, everyone is important regardless of your party affiliation or geography, that's the way not only to campaign, not only to win the nomination and general but that's the way to govern is with america. plus, i'll talk to the head of a pilot's union who said they
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with exactly 600 days until the 2020 election, former texas congressman beto o'rourke is announcing his bid for the presidency and he's already campaigning in a first state to hold a presidential nomination contest, that being iowa. he's also receiving and responding to some criticism already from president trump. >> your reaction to beto o'rourke's announcement. >> i think he's got a lot of hand movement. i said, is he crazy or is that just the way he acts? >> president trump made fun of your hands today.
>> oh, did he? >> did you see that? >> i have nothing to say to that. i think people want us to rise above the pettiness and smallness. they want us to be big, bold, ambitious for this country and that's what i'm doing and what i see told in burlington. >> we'll move away from the hands joke. and so, all right, so he's finally in. >> he's in, he's in. >> he's in. he's already been part of so much polling previous to today. where does he stand. >> if he with look at our latest iowa caucus poll we see he's all the way down at 5%. he obviously has four people ahead of him and that's a big difference from where we were just a few months ago when he was actually in third place and double digits. he's dropped down as other candidates have gotten in. the real question is whether or not he's able to recover once he gets in the race. >> now that he is, we'll watch and see if his numbers improve. where do the other candidates stand? >> the other candidates, sanders
and biden -- how predictive is the polling right now. is it going to be the case that biden's lead will hold. if we look back over time, there are a lot of losers on this list. giuliani was up at this point. clinton was up in this point in 2008. scott walker and jeb bush were both tied at this point in 2016. that's a real indication that we still have a lot of time, one thing i will point out is if we look back over a longer span, if you look back at these iowa polls, half the people who were leading at this point since 1980 and won the nomination, about half loss. a 50/50 split, we have 12 people running. if i could tell you with 50% certainty who might win, that's not a bad thing. >> just the fact that joe biden was on the top of your list a second ago and we don't even know if he's getting in the race is still stunning. >> he has a very high favorable rating with democrats because they remember his time with
barack obama. can he take a punch? we'll have to wait and see. >> harry, thank you. moments ago cnn's poppy harlow asked amy klobuchar what she thought of the beto o'rourke's candidacy? did your lane get narrow? >> i think that competition is good in our party. i believe barack obama's been saying this to people. he said it to me and others. having a number of strong candidates in a election and in a race is important and then the voters are going to be able to evaluate it and, of course, he's someone that comes like i do from the center of the country. i think it's important to have people that are running that are from different parts of the country. >> o'rourke just finished the second of three stops in iowa. he was, quote, born to do this.
annie lebowitz snapping this very all-american photo, so with me is former state representative for south carolina, bakari, it is good to see you. you saw the "vanity fair" spread, what did you make of this rollout shall we call it? >> i think that the rollout does leave some things to be desired. beto o'rourke is a personality that is well-known. his race, along with andrew gillum and stacy abrams set the country on fire. i just think that i'm born to do this is a pretty weird tag line and slogan. i know that he has more depth than that. one of the things that he's going to have to do as he runs, this isn't a city council rate, this isn't even running against a senator, he has to prove he can be presidential. he can't be someone else.
this whole ploy to make the next barack obama is going to fall flat on its face and so people need to be able to learn who beto is. the next messiah or the next barack obama is not going to be the case. he'll have to demonstrate some depth. he's a robust challenger and i'm excited he's in the field. i look forward to the excitement he brings to the race but i also hope that excitement has policy depth. >> before we get to that, i want to follow-up how he was saying i was born do this and when you talk to critics that aren't quite sure what they think of him so far, to say that just drips of white male privilege and to think if a kamala harris, for example, were to say, i was born to do this, what do you think the reaction would be? >> well, i do think that there's certain elements that we have to look at and this just isn't a democratic flaw but this is a flaw we have in the yuts of america. i think that beto o'rourke has some privilege that allows him to do things and i think that
many of the media are glowing and gloating in a way and urging him to run for a president in a way that stacey abrams and andrew gillum have not begun goaded to run. the things he's said in his rollout are not things that could be said by amy klobuchar or elizabeth warren or kamala harris and the list goes on and on and on. so i do think that all of us have to take a moment and check our privilege. with that being said, there is some element of beto being a quintessential millennial. he is someone -- >> gen x technically, but yeah. >> well, we'll take him. >> we're all gen xs. are we? >> i'm a millennial guy. >> are you? >> i think, yeah. >> okay. >> i thought he was one of us but maybe he's not. regardless, he does represent a fresh face in politics. >> so to the point, though, i want to say in his favor when he
was interviewed by "vanity fair," he did say this, talking about vulnerability running. the government is overly represented by white men and that's part of the problem. i think it's just so important that those who would compromise my team look like this country. if i were to win, my administration looks like this country. it is the only way i know to meet the challenge. so that at least sounds like a solid start. >> that's a bold, bold pronouncement. the fact that he juxta post that against bernie sanders it's drastic. i do believe we have the most diverse field that we've had in the history of politics on either side. you have julian castro and kamala harris and kirsten gillibrand, you have cory booker and beto o'rourke. i do believe the democratic party will have a diverse ticket. i think that means for all of those people who were having some beto/biden dreams that may not be the case. >> yet. we'll see. bakari sellers, 600 days to go,
anything's possible. >> it's only 600 days, brooke. >> only. not that anyone's counting around here. thank you. right now the flight data recorders from the deadly ethiopian airplane crash are in france. they remain grounded. we reported the senate blocked the president's emergency declaration just a bit ago with those 12 republican senators voting against him. well, his first response is one single solitary word. have we ever seen this from the president? veto. it would be the first veto of his presidency. democratic congressman is asking them to override the aforementioned veto. more on that ahead.
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boeing needs to figure it out and fast, that is the message from president trump after officials worldwide decided to ground the company's max 8 and 9 jets following two fatal accidents in just a few months. here in the united states passengers who were on those planes as that announcement was made expressed relief. >> i think it's the right choice. god forbid another one happens. they need to figure it out first
for everybody's sake. >> i made it safe. i'm here. we'll deal with that issue and if that's what the president wants to do then that's what we'll do. >> it doesn't bother me. it's an hour flight. we'll get up there. i do know the faa was looking into the concerns. >> an american airline's pilot represents the pilots of american airlines, so dennis, thank you so much for coming on with us and you know the news, american has 24 max 8 aircraft. yesterday before the grounding was announced, you said you were confident in the max 8. you flew one just the other day. do you still feel that same sense of confidence? >> well, the facts changed and that's what we were waiting for. if we had seen those facts, we don't have all the details but the faa announced they found something in the wreckage that led them to a conclusion on the configuration of that aircraft
after takeoff and they had more visibility data on the flight path and those would be the kind of facts we would be processing but our government got those quickly and then made a decision. that's what changed everything and we're confident up to that point because we knew how to comeback any maladies but any time we got information like that, factual information which is what we were waiting for, we see the grounding, we understand that wisdom. >> a lot of similarities were reported earlier in the week, the rest of the world reacted so much sooner, do you think that the faa waited too long? >> well, the faa waited for the actual facts, concrete facts they could point to. i'm not here as a spokesman for that, but for our pilots we were looking dpieshl information. there's enough of an overlay. they took action. we continue to be part of that partnership and want to find out the details, so prior to that the information was a little bit fuzzy. there was indication but because of our training, the unique
equipment on american airlines aircraft that was related to the lion air incident -- the alerts would have given us along with just the training and experience of our pilots, we felt comfortable. the pilot at southwest and united felt comfortable. that change yesterday when additional facts came in and the president parked those airplanes and we'll get this right. >> boeing has deep ties in washington, d.c. including the current acting defense secretary, former boeing executive, listen to what he said in a senate hearing today. >> i'd like to know whether you have spoken about the boeing 737 max 8 to anyone in the administration in the department of transportation or in the white house? >> senator, i've not spoken to anyone regarding the 737 max. >> are you in favor of an investigation that would look into why these defects that cause crashes were not known
earlier or were not acted upon earlier? >> senator, i firmly believe we should let the regulators investigate the incidence. >> and this isn't just the trump white house, former president obama attended the company's corporate retreat. there's also the millions boeing has paid out in lobbying. do you think this was done to protect an american company? >> that is not our field. we're in charge of the cockpit. we have deep ties to our passengers and deep ties to our fellow crew members. that's our job. that's what we focus on. all that's for everybody else to forensically figure out. we're interested, obviously, if it affects decisions that may affect the safety of our passenger and crew and the viability of our airlines. they'll get that figured out. we're going to stay in our lane but we're certainly looking at that and great interest just
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blocked a vote on a resolution calling for the mueller report to be made public. our senior congressional correspondent manu raju is live with this and manu we know this is a measure that already passed the house unanimously today. is that correct? >> reporter: it passed 420-0 which you rarely see during this time. that resolution nonbinding passed the house calling for the public release of the mueller report. chuck schumer the senate democratic leader tried to quickly pass that same nonbinding symbolic measure in the senate just moments ago, but he needed to get support from all of his colleagues to get a unanimous support to quickly pass it and lindsey graham, the senate judiciary committee chairman, objected, blocked that from moving forward because lindsey graham wanted that measure amended so they could call for a second special counsel to investigate what he believes were fbi abuses during the clinton investigation and the russia investigation and that prompted this back and
forth between schumer and graham. >> i'm deeply disappointed in my good friend from south carolina. this amendment appears to be a pretext for blocking this very serval, noncontroversial resolution. 420 members of the house voted for it. congressman jim jordan, friend of the president voted for it. congressman devin nunes friend of the president voted for it. this resolution should pass the senate in the blink of an eye. >> mueller's been allowed to do his job. you're going to find out what he found pretty soon, as much as we can consistent with the law, but i'm not going to give up on the idea that we're just going to look at one problem of 2016. i've been talking to myself for the most part. now i've got a forum. i will introduce a resolution asking you to do a simple thing, ask somebody outside of politics, a special counsel to look in to how in the world the
system got so off track to use a document prepared by a foreign agent, paid for by the democratic party, collected in russia to obtain a warrant against american citizens that is garbage to this day? >> reporter: now those concerns that lindsey graham are raising echoing the concerns of the president has raised time and time again for months and graham is the new chairman of the senate judiciary committee once to use his panel to investigate what he believes is the way the fbi improperly carried out but the clinton investigation and the early parts of the russian investigation back in 2016, but all this led to here was him blocking this effort from moving forward. chuck schumer would not agree to amend his resolution calling for a second special counsel so as a result stalemate no senate approval despite unanimous
support in the very polarized house calling for the report. we'll see what happens when it's finally done here, brooke. >> manu, thank you very much. we have a preview of time's provocative new cover. do they dare? the democrats will likely impeach. not if you ask the most powerful democrat in congress house speaker nancy pelosi declaring president trump is quote/unquote, not worth it. today, manu raju asking speaker pelosi if she might change her mind about impeachment if the mueller report comes back suggesting criminal activity and here was her response. >> our focus was in what we said we would do, health care, job creation, cleaner government, gun safety, issues like that and it is not worth our time to take our attention from that. if the mueller report comes back with information, i don't think we should impeach a president for political reasons and i
don't think we should not impeach a president for political reasons but you have to be iron clad in terms of your facts. >> molly ball wrote "times" new cover story and serves as a political correspondent. if i may, the old english nerd in me with my t.s. elliott book that sits in my office, do i dare eat a peach, i loved, i loved what you did with this cover. can you tell me a little bit more about it? >> well, i can't take any credit for that. that was our brilliant editors and graphic designers in new york who came up with that very clever design and cover line, but, yes, i agree, it's a great reference. a lot of people have gotten it and found it very musing. we don't mean to make light of the subject obviously. >> it's a brilliant cover. on this very serious topic, though of impeachment, you say conventional wisdom in washington tends to treat impeachment as a fringe crusade and speaker pelosi is right to
resist the momentum but she's playing a deeper game. how do you mean? >> well, just listen to those remarks that nancy pelosi made just today in response to the question and, you know, the summary are the headline from those remarks is, she's doubled down on being against impeachment. that isn't what she said. what she says is, we're not going to impeach for political reasons and we're not going to impeach for political reasons. she has never shut the door to impeachment from the beginning and i spoke to her about this topic more than a year ago and she said essentially the same thing. we want to have a high standard. we don't want to prejudge the evidence but, you know, we're going to go forward based on the facts if they're there and we're going to set a high standard. she was around during the impeachment of bill clinton. a lot of people in washington today were already around at that time and i think both republicans and democrats have regrets about that process and see it as having been unduly political or at least not as having not done the republicans
any favors politically, so she doesn't want a repeat of that, you know, in reverse for the democrats where an impeachment process is seen as a political play and backfires on the party that brings it, but she hasn't shut the door to it. she said we need to allow mueller to do his work and then we have these high standards with what we would proceed with. she wants to send a public message that this is not the focus of the democrats because the president's message has been that this is a witch-hunt and that they are obsessed with this idea of impeaching him and she is trying to send the message that that's not the case. >> so, we're looking at a recent poll. it shows not everyone in america is not on board with this, at least not yet. 59% of americans say no. let's set aside the resistance from senate republicans for a moment. do you think democrats need more of the public on their side or as you point out when you go way
back to nixon where the public opinion wasn't entirely on the side that that will evolve through the process? >> look, i am not arguing for impeachment. i am reporting that based on my reporting i believe it is much likelier than most people believe and most suggest but i would point out that, you know, i think the people -- i think the people who believe that impeachment is this, you know -- is this fringe crusade are not recognizing that public support for it is quite high by historical standards. that poll's got it at 35%. that's a little bit on the low end of the massive polling that's been conducted on this topic. it's been as high as 49%. this is before the mueller report comes up, before people feel they have had enough information to judge. already nearly half the public has at one point or another believed that the president ought to be impeached and that is -- that's the highest that it's been for any president since nixon. of course, there was a group of people who thought barack obama
should be impeached when he was president, thought george w. bush should be impeached when he was president. it was not nearly such a large proportion. there already is a pretty high bar of public opinion but as you point out, it's not a majority and one of the standards that nancy pelosi has tried to set is that they don't want to move forward in opposition to overwhelming public opinion but what she doesn't say when she says that is that one of the things that she is trying to do is to bend public opinion. one of the purposes of the democrats oversight operation is to send a message to the american public about what they view as the misconduct of the trump administration and to, you know, create a narrative and tell a story to people about what they believe the facts show. >> molly ball with the time cover piece. thank you very much for that. we'll be looking for it. i want to get breaking news out of israel where we have the reports of two rockets being fired from the gaza strip toward
tel aviv. melissa bell is with me now live on the phone. melissa, tell me what you know. >> reporter: brooke, for the time being what we know is that the sirens were sounded in tel aviv warning people of what was happening, what we know also this is from the israeli defense forces from the israeli army, essentially that two rockets were reported to have been fired from the gaza strip. we don't know yet who is responsible, of course. according to the israeli ministry, nt accepted one of those rockets, brooke while the other is likely to have landed in an open area possibly in a sea. this is what we're hearing for the time being. when we know more about thatth, this is an escalation insofar as the last time that tel aviv --
the rocket alerts were activated was two years ago in what was a false alarm. it is reported that these sirens went off and according to israeli defense forces that two rockets were fired from the -- from gaza. the iron dome, we're told, intercepted at least one of them. that, for the time being, brooke, is what we have heard. those sirens being sounded in tel aviv says there is some sort of escalation go iing on. we are trying to get to the bottom of exactly what that means and what has happened precisely. >> i understand, it is still early going and we don't want to get ahead of the facts here. two rockets fired from gaza. toward israeli territory. melissa, do we know anything about any fatalities as of yet? >> no fatalities for the time being. but again, according to israeli
defense forces, no fatalities. an escalation nonetheless insofar that it has been a while since we heard all rockets being sent from gaza towards tel aviv. >> all eyes clearly on gaza and what is coming from there. >> got t melissa bell, thank you very much. calling in from overseas. quick break. we'll continue our special coverage after this. [music playing] (sashimi) psst. hey, you!
we are back with the breaking news that two rockets were fired from gaza towards israel. i was talking to our correspondent a second ago. she said the iron dome appears to have worked, so far no fatalities. but at this point it is an escalation. it's been a while since something like this happened. there have been false alarms since 2014. you correct me, you're the expert. but what does this mean for you? >> the problem, brooke, is that we don't know where the source of the fire was. it seems -- it seems to have come from the northern gaza strip. whether this was hamas, that certainly has the capacity with high trajectory fire to reach the tel aviv area, or some other jihadi group. rockets launched toward tel aviv. we don't know where they hit. iron dome intercepted one, the other presumably fell in an open
area. why hamas would want to risk th this, which is directed toward one of israel's major urban concentrations, is unclear. there was a launch saturday night, for example, a rocket, and israelis responded by striking hamas positions in gaza. but again this is wash, rinse and repeat. 2008, 2012, 2014 and a series of intermittent tensions between hamas and israel and other jihadi groups makes gaza an explosion waiting to happen. i'm surprised, though, frankly, by the intent here. remember, this occurs 30 days before an israeli selection, with an israeli prime minister, who has been traditionally risk averse and unwilling to truly strike with ground forces in gaza, for obvious reasons, and high israeli casualties. but it's election season.
and i suspect we're going to get a pretty severe response by the israelis. >> aaron david miller on the phone. we'll keep a close eye on this. e-mails sent to michael cohen, discuss aid back channel of communication with rudy giuliani have been requested for review in the southern district of new york. cnn first reported that these 2018 e-mails yesterday, which included a conversation, suggesting that michael cohen could, quote, unquote, sleep well tonight because he had, quote, friends in high places. former federal prosecutor and u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york. and so, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> why do prosecutors want to look at these e-mails? >> the most interesting thing about this story is that prosecutors didn't already have the e-mails. you'll remember michael cohen provided these e-mails to congress to bolster his testimony that people had been dangling a pardon in front of him. if you read the e-mails, i'm not sure that that's that clear.
>> why not? sleep well tonight, what else would it mean? >> when robert costello, the attorney who sent cohen the e-mails, was interviewed yesterday, he said it was cohen himself who had wanted him to raise the possibility of a pardon. and you'll remember that in his testimony before congress, cohen couldn't have been clearer, he has now clarified those statements but at the time said he has never asked for, nor would he accept a pardon. these e-mails he produced himself have complicated his situation. and the southern district, at his sentencing, was not -- southern district prosecutors were not happy with him. they told the judge that they felt like he hadn't fully cooperated. he only talked about the things that he wanted to talk about and he hadn't turned over, obviously, these e-mails as evidence. the fact that they've asked for them at this point may not spell good things for michael cohen. >> okay. nicole, thank you very much. i'm out of time but more on michael cohen and e-mails they'll be looking into, for sure. thank you very much. thank you so much for, of
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